i got a 96 integra gsr vtec, could i beat a 00 camaro 3.8L v6?

[integdude16]

my friend has a 2000 chevy camaro 3.8 Liter v6 and i have a 96 acura integra with a gsr 1.8 DOHC VTEC engine. he keeps talkin saying that my cars a "4 cylinder" and his is a "six cylinder" and he could "woop" me. i think that i could beat him. i have a header, air intake, new spark plugs, new race spark plug wires, exhaust, and new performance distributor with ignition coil, and a short throw shifter. my basic question is "CAN I BEAT HIM"?. pleas ebe up front and honest with answers! pleeasssee reply!! thanks!

[eat_world]

What mods does he have? But no disrespect to you but i really hope not in a drag race.

[capriceman]

I can't give You a simple yes or no.
Keep this in mind.
I have a 94 L99 Caprice with the 4.3 V8. GM makes a six cylinder 4.3. That is a Big V6. Lots of tourque for the weight. The 3.8 is not that much smaller. I believe that the Camero 3.8 has some pretty damn good aspiration stock. If He helped that a little, it will be a pretty hot V6.
I've never owned a GM 3.8, but I do however have an '85 Mercury Marquis with a 3.8 V6. I don't drive it much any more, but I used to wax my Cousins 94 Accura with it.
When I had the head off of it, just to see, I tried putting my fist in one of cylinders. I'm 6'2". My fist fit. It has a Big bore. Lot's of jump.
I would say that both engines are comprable in power and torque, and the Camero is probibly lighter than my Merc.
From the mods that You describe, I think You would just edge him out off the line. Mabey half a lenght. You have good low end torque. After 30-35 mph. I think He's got You.
If He's talking unprovoked shit, I hope I'm wrong.
Shouldn't trash someone elses ride even if He's not a big fan of Honda.
The more I think about it, the more I like Your chances in a short run. But still, That Camero is going to have greater top end.
Good luck. Let us know.

[LM13]

you know of your 1.4 mile times? if you run mid to low 15's you have a pretty good chance. if he is bone stock that is.
you racing for fun or money? :)
if money then how much?
maybe there'd be some sense in investing in a juice kit, just incase you are about to loose your car, flip the switch and you are gone :D.
summit has some for 400 bucks and up

[EliGC]

I think you should just race him for fun, don't trash talk before the race and if you loose be a sport and shake his hand or something. I think it will be a close race, depends on how you set it up. If you race on the 1/4 mile race track then you have the advantage of getting better traction at the start which can pretty much give you even chances since he will have more torque avaliable to him in the beggining of the race. I think it will be a close race.

[capriceman]

Like Elig said, be cool about it. Just for fun.
Keep the race short as You can. Lite to lite on a short block, something like that.
Those Cameros are like these B-bodys in that once they get rolling, they are GONE!

[89caprice9C1]

C A M A R O CAMARO!!!!! Camero is spanish for shrimp, and my CAMARO may be smaller than your Capreece, but it's a HELL of alot faster. At least up to 120, then my old 9C1 would walk all over it. Seriously though, you'll take him off the line and up until about 1/3 of the way up to the big end of the quarter. After that, you'd better have your seatbelt on, cuz he'll blow by you in a hurry and be waiting with a burger and a shake for you at the finish line. I'm against street racing, but that'd be your best bet-a short stoplight to stoplight type of thing. Get ahead of him by a quarter panel or more, hold that for a second, then back 'er right down! That'll keep him guessing!:D ;) If he's a friend of yours, you're about to cost him a lot of money! Mod money!:doh:

[capriceman]

Well well,
C A P R I C E, CAPRICE.
Of course a 69 Camero with a 454 is faster than a 92-96 Caprice.
Pretty much anything with a 454 is.
We're talking about 350's, or in my case, a 265.
Have You ever gone against a 69-74 Caprice with a 454?
How close was it?
Capreese is Italian for bite me.

[89caprice9C1]

As a matter of fact, I HAVE gone up against an early 70's (73)Capreece back when I only had a 350 and a sorry a$$ed Saginaw 4 speed--the Capreese lost. By a LOT!:p Of course he was stock, and as for me....................:redeyes:

Just remember that there's ALWAYS somebody faster than you.Heaven forbid that GM continues their downward spiral and we all end up driving 1000mpg 1hp electric cars. I'll be the one gutting the car and slapping on an extra set of Duracels:D

[Incitatus]

Camero is spanish for shrimp
I believe you're thinking of "camarón "...

:D hehe... close, though!


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[EliGC]

Originally posted by Incitatus

I believe you're thinking of "camarón "...

:D hehe... close, though!


This is one of my favorite websites (bookmark this bad boy):

BabelFish (http://babel.altavista.com/tr)



There is a story that goes something like this: Before the first showing GM told the press that their new car will be called Camaro which in the old French(pre-reniassance) language means "friend", the marketing at Ford also quickly pointed out that Camaro in old Spanish(pre-reconquista) language stands for "small shrimp-like creature".

[89caprice9C1]

See now, the "story" that I've heard goes like this... Camaro was a post-conquistidor spanish word for a rare panther that ate Mustangs alive!:rolleyes:
Anyway, integdude16 let us know how it turns out. Just keep it safe, please. Rodders and modders get enough bad press as it is.;)

[LM13]

Originally posted by 89caprice9C1
See now, the "story" that I've heard goes like this... Camaro was a post-conquistidor spanish word for a rare panther that ate Mustangs alive!:rolleyes:



:toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

[Incitatus]

I learn something new every day...


"And now you know... the rest... of the story
Paul Harvey... Good Day"

[capriceman]

Originally posted by 89caprice9C1
As a matter of fact, I HAVE gone up against an early 70's (73)Capreece back when I only had a 350 and a sorry a$$ed Saginaw 4 speed--the Capreese lost. By a LOT!:p Of course he was stock, and as for me....................:redeyes:

Just remember that there's ALWAYS somebody faster than you.Heaven forbid that GM continues their downward spiral and we all end up driving 1000mpg 1hp electric cars. I'll be the one gutting the car and slapping on an extra set of Duracels:D

Ah, but did he have a 454?
Even the mighty mighty Caprice can get to a pretty sorry state if neglected.
If a 69 camaro with a 454 lined up with a 69 caprice with a 454, the camaro would win. A lot less weight. Older caprices' were HUMONGOUS.
My buddy had a 74 caprice. Party Barge.
And You are correct sir!
Always gonna be someone faster.

[drift22]

You will probably be taken off the line due to his superior torque numbers.... but when your VTEC hits at 4300 rpm i believe you will beat him. Stock gsr's run low 15's stock. With your mods(taking you're a good driver with good tires you could easily be in high 14's. His camaro isn't. Good luck(probably won't need it):burn:

[CIVIC_VX/Si]

well lets see here,

I have a '93 civic hatchback with a '92 civic Si engine in it, and I have shit kicked camaro v6s all over the place, and given that you have more power than I do, but more weight I think you can easily do the same. I have raced the from a 65mph start on the interstate and from a dead stop. So the odds are greatly in your favor man.

[MrSag]

Originally posted by 89caprice9C1
Heaven forbid that GM continues their downward spiral and we all end up driving 1000mpg 1hp electric cars. I'll be the one gutting the car and slapping on an extra set of Duracels:D
Well, eventually we are going to run out of gasoline. But probably not in our lifetimes. Just in case, start stocking up on those Duracels:)

[gogoactiongsr]

the GSR should have no problem beating a v-6 camero, i own a 94 GSR with only a header and cold air intake and i can hang with most stock and slightly modified z-28's and have time slips from emerald coast dragway to prove it.

[gogoactiongsr]

hey drift22 vtec on a gsr doesn't kick in till 5300 rpm

[EliGC]

Originally posted by gogoactiongsr
the GSR should have no problem beating a v-6 camero, i own a 94 GSR with only a header and cold air intake and i can hang with most stock and slightly modified z-28's and have time slips from emerald coast dragway to prove it.

So whats your quater mile time?

[gogoactiongsr]

i havn't raced 1/4 mile unfortunatly we only have an 1/8 mile track where i live but i normally run between an 9.4 and a 9.8 depending on track conditions, humidity, temp., etc. if you go to www.emeraldcoastdragway.com and click race results i'm there for 2nd place in street finals my names Drew Dickey but they spelled my name wrong, and i know i know i broke out like a SOB we caught some rain just before finals and i spun tire off the line and launched harder then i wanted to.

[EliGC]

9s on the 1/8th is equal to 15s in the 1/4th, which is about what a stock Caprice would run. A stock Z28 runs mid 13s, a slightly modded can be in very low 13s or high 12s.

[gogoactiongsr]

so what u drive eligc

[EliGC]

Originally posted by gogoactiongsr
so what u drive eligc

Maxima

[gogoactiongsr]

your rite bout the time thing it'll prolly be a whole nother story on a 1/4 mile i'll be the first to tell ya that a 4cyl has no where near the top end as a V-8 and in the 1/4 that comes in to play a lot more, i'm just talking from my expirence on the 1/8 and light to light races, i'm not saying by any means that i'm beating these guys just hanging with them, i've won some and lost more

[gogoactiongsr]

done any thing to your maxima or not into that kinda stuff

[EliGC]

Originally posted by gogoactiongsr
done any thing to your maxima or not into that kinda stuff

No mods. I'm pretty sure there must be some quater mile tracks in Florida

[Ground Rat]

Hmmm... what is the ET for a stock chevy camaro 3.8 Liter v6? Wonder if my near stock 454SS could take him in the quarter?

[CoopS]

gogoactiongsr's quite right actually... VTEC does kick in at around 5500rpm not 4300... at least not on the B18C. I've got 94 Si VTEC Integra and am looking at buyin a VTEC controller to get better control on power delivery.

[ba96ta]

Originally posted by gogoactiongsr
i havn't raced 1/4 mile unfortunatly we only have an 1/8 mile track where i live but i normally run between an 9.4 and a 9.8 depending on track conditions, humidity, temp., etc. if you go to www.emeraldcoastdragway.com and click race results i'm there for 2nd place in street finals my names Drew Dickey but they spelled my name wrong, and i know i know i broke out like a SOB we caught some rain just before finals and i spun tire off the line and launched harder then i wanted to.

You better not even think about taken on ls1's with those times or even lt1's for that matter unless you like seeing tail lights.:) those times are not to bad for your mods that converts to 14.6-15.2 in the 1320.

[Incitatus]

integdude16,
It would seem that you've asked a good question, no one seems to agree on who would beat who off the line.
My thought is that you could take him in the 1/8th mile, he'd catch up and pass you in the 1/4.
Considering it's been five weeks since you began the discussion, have you raced him yet?
If so, what happened?

[Deven]

Watch the import rock the bowtie.... only in this case do I applaude the import. Whereas Chevy needs to get their heads out of their @$$e$ and put together a real sports car. Sure a Corvette will do the trick against the 350Z, but at what $?

I myself am in the process of making a 1994 3.4L Camaro, a LO5, THM350 w\ 8inch conv and a 8.5 inch rear with 3.90's. Which in my book (and puter) should make 400HP equalling a mid 12 second run with a 8 inch slick.

And may the best import try to whoop on my @$$.....lmao!

[heroics321]

if you're a good driver, or even if you're a decent driver, you would probly beat it. a stock camero V-6 does about 16's, its the same v-6 pontiac puts in their grand prix's (and the v-6 firbird). the gsr does 15's, so as far as stats go, you're in the lead.

[Ttype]

My buick has a 3.8 v6 not to sound cocky but i have many cars in there place, its not turbod or sc just reg aspirated. Id go with the camro unless ur car is really really modded.

[SCOTCH =iWARP=]

Originally posted by capriceman

Capreese is Italian for bite me.


no its not.... mordalo is :xeyes:

[maximus]

Why does it matter who can beat who??? Can't you people just drive your cars and be happy with them? I mean damn, is it really that important who's car is faster??

[gilsi9c1]

Originally posted by maximus
I mean damn, is it really that important who's car is faster??
no its not....as long as its my car :redeyes:

[89caprice9C1]

The first car was built to drive. The second car was built to beat it.:D

[Incitatus]

Originally posted by SCOTCH =iWARP=



no its not.... mordalo is :xeyes:

...or more accurately, mordami

[capriceman]

:Poke:

[capriceman]

is it really that important who's car is faster??



That's sort of the piont.:)

[Incitatus]

Originally posted by capriceman
is it really that important who's car is faster??


That's sort of the point.:)

Men have been competitive since the beginning of time. That's just the way we are.