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xxmikegrantxx
05-14-03, 19:01
ok guys i just foud out another there is prob. with my engine in addition to the bad valve seals. it supposedly has water in it. i have no idea what to do about this. i can not afford a new engine until january. what affect will this have on my car and is there anything i can do about it? and most of all how could this have happened?
Originally posted by xxmikegrantxx
ok guys i just foud out another there is prob. with my engine in addition to the bad valve seals. it supposedly has water in it. i have no idea what to do about this. i can not afford a new engine until january. what affect will this have on my car and is there anything i can do about it? and most of all how could this have happened?
whatever you do, don't start the car.
i think the water might leak out by itself, if doesn't you could try removing the oil pan.
It could be as simple as a blown head gasket or as drastic as a cracked block.
If you do have water in your oil DON'T RUN THE ENGINE!!
Water (and/or antifreeze) will wash the oil coating off of the cylinder walls and it'll be like not having any oil in it at all.
If you have the mechanical ability, take the heads off and look at the gaskets.
You might be thinking that you need your car and thus can't afford the down time -well, if you run it as it is it will only make matters (much) worse
(the loss of the entire engine).
If you aren't going to do the work yourself, have it towed -do not drive it- to the shop.
are you sure it has water? does your oil look like milkshake? some condensation on the filler cap is pretty normal, but if you had water leaking into oil it wouldnt look brown, instead it'd look like milkshake...
Ya what those guys said...
Feliks new paint and wheels? Wasnt your car brighter? Looks PHAT
yeah, paint & wheels... :D :D :D some engine work too...
capriceman
05-16-03, 01:58
Originally posted by Incitatus
It could be as simple as a blown head gasket or as drastic as a cracked block.
If you do have water in your oil DON'T RUN THE ENGINE!!
Water (and/or antifreeze) will wash the oil coating off of the cylinder walls and it'll be like not having any oil in it at all.
If you have the mechanical ability, take the heads off and look at the gaskets.
You might be thinking that you need your car and thus can't afford the down time -well, if you run it as it is it will only make matters (much) worse
(the loss of the entire engine).
If you aren't going to do the work yourself, have it towed -do not drive it- to the shop.
ABSOLUTLY DO NOT RUN THAT ENGINE!!!!
There are basicly three ways to get water in the oil.
Like I-man said, cracked or leaky head gasket, cracked block,(possibly the head itself, but doubtfull), or, some one who really doesn't like You put it there.
In any case, don't even start that engine or You will lose it. Not You may lose it, You will.
Drain the oil out. All of it. Save it. Put new oil in. Turn the engine SLOWELY, BY HAND! That's just to keep oil on some of the parts.
Let the old oil sit awile. If it is water, it will seperate and float on top.
Have it towed, from the back, or on a roll back truck, to a shop and have them check it out.
Two years agoe it was going to cost me $500 to replace the head gaskets on my mercury.
I got a fairly complete engine for that at the junk yard.
But that's a ford 6, not an Lt1.
MikeG,
I noticed you have the 305... is that right?
With having problems with the heads (what was it? valve stem seals?) and possibly water in the engine, why not consider an engine upgrade?
I'm pleased with how my 265 runs
(of course you could "settle" for an LT1, I suppose).
I know it sounds expensive, but considering the cost of towing and shop work -getting all of your engine problems taken care of- it just might be cheaper to replace the engine.
If you go that route and get an engine from a junk yard, try to get the pcm that came with the car. -Either that or try to find a wrecked car/good engine on your own (newspaper, car trader, etc)
I'm sorry I'm not able to offer any low cost solutions...
Originally posted by Incitatus
MikeG,
I noticed you have the 305... is that right?
With having problems with the heads (what was it? valve stem seals?) and possibly water in the engine, why not consider an engine upgrade?
I'm pleased with how my 265 runs
(of course you could "settle" for an LT1, I suppose).
I know it sounds expensive, but considering the cost of towing and shop work -getting all of your engine problems taken care of- it just might be cheaper to replace the engine.
If you go that route and get an engine from a junk yard, try to get the pcm that came with the car. -Either that or try to find a wrecked car/good engine on your own (newspaper, car trader, etc)
I'm sorry I'm not able to offer any low cost solutions...
he'd also have to get all the wiring for the LT1 too. it is alot of hastle i think it would be easier if you just swapped a 350 in there. isn't that like a direct bolt on? :confused:
Well, ok... I think you're right and I think that would probably be easiest. A non-LT1 350 wouldn't be a bad choice at all.
yeah the 350 tbi is a direct bolt on but i kind of regret not going to an Lt-1. its more work but probably worth it and it could end up being about the same price of you get the motor out of a junked car.
Well, no, I got to thinking that there's more than just the PCM to deal with. If he were to replace his 305 with an LT1 or L99 he'd also have to change the radiator
(and fans, etc) because of the reverse coolant flow thing.
It would definitely be best to go back with something non-LT1(/baby LT1).
Shoot, I'd look into something out of a pick-up (truck).
xxmikegrantxx,
I know we keep talking about doing this or buying that and it's not our money we're talking about spending. It just sounds like getting a used engine is going to be your best bet compared to reworking the heads and (for all intends and purposes) rebuilding the engine you have now.
A simple motor swap might be something you (and maybe a friend or two) could do on your own over a weekend.
capriceman
05-23-03, 01:31
A simple motor swap might be something you (and maybe a friend or two) could do on your own over a weekend.
I still my "85 merc. Marquis.
I blew a head gasket about two years agoe.
I'm not really sure what I did to cause this, as the speedomoter only goes up to 85.:D
In the precess of trying to change it the engine siezed up.
I found a real good engine at the local salvage yard for $500, rented the cherry picker and had it swaped and running in three days.
I spent the last half of the third trying to figure out why it wouldn't turn over. (Dead battery.):doh:
Point being, You can do a simple engine swap in a few days. It really isn't that difficult if You have the proper equipment.
If You could find a caprice wuth a decent Lt1 and the rest of the car trashed, You could swap out everything that You'll need.
Good Luck.
How about a used 454? :D find a wrecked silverado or something, that had the same engine was it a 6.3L? that would be a def good swap and no regrets about not getting the LT1 :).
capriceman
05-24-03, 03:48
454, hmmmmm......
Originally posted by capriceman
454, hmmmmm......
yea, and i've heard that all those engines need is a new cam to unleash the power and then he'll be eating the snakes for breakfast lunch and dinner.
capriceman
05-31-03, 00:16
Snakes, hmmm.........
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